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Title: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on October 31, 2011, 06:46:09 PM
So, I just caught up with the first 3 episodes of the season.  What do you think?
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Post by: X-Calibur on October 31, 2011, 07:20:14 PM
*cums*
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on October 31, 2011, 09:21:39 PM
I can see how some people don't like it (though those also tend to be the people not into zombie movies in general, I've found), but I'm loving it, especially since it all takes place within the span of a month or so.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on November 01, 2011, 11:53:38 AM
i liked the gunshot / "hospital" stuff. seemed kinda weird, but it brings about more of the "reality" of the situation, whereby people need to hunt, lack of access to hospitals creates the need for crazy setups like the one they needed for the kid...


somehow I missed the follow-up episode where the guys are in the high school. need to check that out online... probably now.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 01, 2011, 04:34:19 PM
Its a total roller coaster.  First episode had me tense as hell.  Second was a tug at the heart strings type episode.  Third... well that one kind of mashed that together, but with a really really chilling ending.  Is it sociopathic?  Is it an instance of "doing ANYTHING for the ones you love"?  Was it a shortcut? 

Terrific grey area!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 04, 2011, 02:05:36 PM
CM Punk is a fan... As if i needed more of a reason to think punk amd i should be besties
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 05, 2011, 09:08:11 PM
I haven't been keeping up with the series as much because I didn't have AMC for awhile, and I'm too lazy to check it out online, but I did get to see one of the most recent episodes where Shane and Otis are getting the medicine for the kid.

The ending was...like it's been said, really shocking. Definitely seemed sociopathic to me. Cool direction for the show to go in.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 05, 2011, 10:36:20 PM
yeah and they planted the seeds last season too with Shane leveling his shotgun at Rick when they were walking through the woods. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 17, 2011, 10:18:42 AM
That farm is trouble... Well zombie is the most disgusting thing ever... And who isnt up for some pharmacy boot knockin'.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 17, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
The line "well zombie is the most disgusting thing ever" leads me to believe you've never seen Peter Jackson's splatter classic Dead Alive (also known as Brain Dead). Is this accurate?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 17, 2011, 01:53:11 PM
Yes...though my line also encompasses the attempted removal of well zombie
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 17, 2011, 02:14:08 PM
I often forget that it's not just hardcore zedheads that watch and love the Walking Dead. Keep in mind that this movie was made by Peter "Lord of the Rings" Jackson.

Dead/Alive Dinner Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izPJ9DsXkXE#noexternalembed)
ADVANCED WARNING: If you have a weak stomach, I strongly advise not even watching this. Its not particularly gruesome or violent, but certainly pretty damn gross. The rest of the movie, however, is ridiculously filled with gore. It was once deemed "the goriest fright film of all-time" for a reason.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 17, 2011, 03:27:39 PM
I often forget that it's not just hardcore zedheads that watch and love the Walking Dead. Keep in mind that this movie was made by Peter "Lord of the Rings" Jackson.


Since I have only seen the first LotR and am pretty "meh" about it, should I care that it was Peter "Lord of the Rings" Jackson?

Second, I have no idea if I'd fall under the classification of "zedhead", but my zombie love does not only encompass TWD. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 17, 2011, 05:06:10 PM
That scene from Dead/Alive is pretty nasty, but I still don't think it tops the "Well Zombie" scene. Something so visceral about bloated guts flying all over the place when it's torn in half...

Dead/Alive has a shitload of other repulsive scenes though, so it's definitely in the same ballpark.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Turner on November 17, 2011, 07:15:26 PM
ZOMBIE SEX!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 17, 2011, 08:48:33 PM
ZOMBIE SEX!!!!!!!


Is that sex between 2 zombies, or a regular joe plowing a zombie?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on November 17, 2011, 11:59:27 PM
I often wonder if a zombie guy can still produce semen or if a zombie female can still ovulate.

I'm sure OD or Laz will some in in a nerdrush and tell me about how only the brain is active blah blah blah.

Fuck that, zombie porn.  Zombie babies.  Half human, half zombie kids.  I need to go to bed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 18, 2011, 11:39:37 AM
hahaha anything would be possible?   I mean the broad in Twilight is knocked up by a vampire... which I didn't think was ossible, but if twilight does it it HAS to be legit.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Turner on November 18, 2011, 03:38:49 PM
ZOMBIE SEX!!!!!!!


Is that sex between 2 zombies, or a regular joe plowing a zombie?

why dont you rent it and find out???????
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 18, 2011, 08:02:24 PM
My religion only allows me to watch 8 new movies every calendar year.  Is this movie I JUST heard about worth it?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Turner on November 19, 2011, 01:38:51 AM
yes... definately
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 20, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
The beautiful thing about zombies is that each source has its own rules.

In the pre-Romero days, zombies were voodoo creations. The only way they could die is either by killing the zombie master (the voodoo priest who created them, thus breaking their control over them) or total dismemberment. Romero (and John A. Russo) made it so that they were 100% literally walking corpses that fed upon living flesh, the only way to kill them being by destroying the brain. Most movies have followed the Romero rules, even Fulci's Zombie (which featured zeds created by a voodoo curse, but they followed the Romero rules of "bullet in the brain = dead"), but then there's the ones that twist it up a bit.

The Return of the Living Dead series (at least the first three; parts 4 and 5 were awful cash-in's, whereas parts 2 and 3 are at least watchable in their own rights) has them created by a chemical, Trioxin 245, and is the only series of zombie movies that actually has them craving brains (more guts are devoured in zombie movies than brains are by a ridiculously large margin, yet the "BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINS!!!!!" facet has become prime). The only way to kill them is through incineration (and, in part 2, electrocution). Dead Alive follows the classic "total dismemberment" way of dealing with them to extremely gorey and gooey results.

Basically, any sort of zombie tale can create their own rules and they'll be accepted, but they need to set them in stone and never waiver. That's why a lot of horrible schlock is called out by zedheads: they don't follow their own rules (see: Zombie 4, which features a flying zombie head for no reason; Return of the Living Dead 4 and 5, which eschew the "total incineration" plot that was so important to the first three for just another "SHOOT them in the head" ruling; House of the Dead, which has zombies doing wire-fu and not once following anything resembling a rule; and the horrible Day of the Dead remake that has zombies climbing walls like spiders and spitting bile at people when they're only considered reanimated corpses).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Jack Reed on November 21, 2011, 07:58:27 PM
poop.

love The Walking Dead.

must see TV.

that is all / 'til next time i po(o)p in.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 21, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
Now there's poop all over our Walking Dead thread....

TURNER!! I've seen you lurking. Get to it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Turner on November 21, 2011, 09:42:49 PM
Now there's poop all over our Walking Dead thread....

TURNER!! I've seen you lurking. Get to it.

Oh man.... let me find the mop...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on November 22, 2011, 12:15:17 PM
The Walkers Barn thing doesn't bother me too much.

The people wanting Rick & Co to leave their house doesn't bother me much... though the idea of no longer seeing Farm Girl is frustrating. Enjoyed her on CHUCK and I'm glad she's there... so I hope she continues on the journey.

The Fatty Zombie In A Well thing was nasty.

And I wouldn't tell Shane to leave. He might've hobbled Otis, but he's still really valuable.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: X-Calibur on November 27, 2011, 04:10:30 PM
Shane is my hero.

And it's about time he nailed the blonde.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 27, 2011, 09:07:50 PM
That was a helluva intense episode.  So damn good. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 27, 2011, 09:12:42 PM
This season:

Love Carl swearing.

Love Glen's love interest... blanking on her name.

Love the scene in the swamp with Shane/Dale. 

Season 2's 1st Half MVP:  Daryl.  Daryl was super money this first half!  Can't wait for February.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 27, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
Great episode.

I'm an avid Shane supporter as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 27, 2011, 09:56:23 PM
i'm in the minority, here at least, I don't like Shane.  He's a dickbag.  He does have a value, but he is not likable, but he's a fascinating character and totally helps drive the show.

Team Rick 4 Life (He had the stones to step up to Zombie Sophia!)....  or Team Darryl. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: X-Calibur on November 27, 2011, 10:46:56 PM
Haha, yeah I don't REALLY like Shane.  He has moments of bad assery that make me smile or say things like he's my hero, but overall he's a huge piece of shit and if I had to choose between Team Rick and Team Shane, I'm Team Rick all the way.  Shane's gradually slipping into madness, it seems, and that is clearly starting to outweigh his usefulness to the group.

Now, if we get a Team Redneck?  Fuck. Darryl is the fucking man. Through and through.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 27, 2011, 11:15:46 PM
overall he's a huge piece of shit + Shane's gradually slipping into madness

That's exactly why I like him.    :D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Kenji Yamada on November 28, 2011, 01:14:00 AM
overall he's a huge piece of shit + Shane's gradually slipping into madness

That's exactly why I like him.    :D

This.

Team Shane. After popping four rounds into the Walkers chest, "That's enough!" "You're right, that is enough." *headshot*

Shane should be the first inductee into the Project: SCAR celebrity wing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 28, 2011, 11:36:01 AM
^ Hell yes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 28, 2011, 12:16:00 PM
Then you realize that you'd ultimately lose support and fail, eh? Rick being the only one to man up and be able to put Sophia down was symbolic of how he's the only one in the group truly fit to be a leader, even if he's not gung ho about killing walkers and takes unnecessary risks at times (which he always puts himself into, so he's the one taking the risk on the front line with the rest of the team).

I'm totally agreeing with Darryl being the MVP thus far. The fact that he offered to kill Andrea, continuously tried to find Sophia for Carol's sake, and even fought his hallucination of his brother makes him the most well-developed character on the show. He knows that staying with the group is his best bet at survival and he's willing to lay his life on the line to help it because he knows, despite what his vision of Merle told him, that they'd be willing to do the same for him (and Rick, T-Dog, and even Glen have proven it).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 28, 2011, 12:34:17 PM
Then you realize that you'd ultimately lose support and fail, eh?

Frankly I don't think Shane would give a fuck if he loses support. He's adept to the point where the group needs him a hell of a lot more than he needs the group. If not for Shane's drastic approach of exterminating the barn walkers, Rick never would have even gotten a chance to see that Sophia was in there.

He'd still have people out risking their lives in that hopeless search.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 28, 2011, 12:45:35 PM
Shane, however, cannot be trusted. As pointed out, Rick was the one that man'd up and put a round in Sophia's head, ultimately paying for the fact that it 's his fault she was a walker anyway. Shane, nor the rest of the group, had a problem with being the firing squad when it was Hershel's friends and family that were walkers in the barn, but once it was somebody from his own group? He chickened out.

This is why Shane fails: he's got the rage but no true control over it. He's a walking pile of unstable emotions. Rick, for as ineffective as he was during the search for Sophia, knows what needs to be done and does it so that the group stays together.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 28, 2011, 12:56:44 PM
Shane, however, cannot be trusted. As pointed out, Rick was the one that man'd up and put a round in Sophia's head, ultimately paying for the fact that it 's his fault she was a walker anyway. Shane, nor the rest of the group, had a problem with being the firing squad when it was Hershel's friends and family that were walkers in the barn, but once it was somebody from his own group? He chickened out.

This is why Shane fails: he's got the rage but no true control over it. He's a walking pile of unstable emotions. Rick, for as ineffective as he was during the search for Sophia, knows what needs to be done and does it so that the group stays together.

Rick can never make the hard choices like Shane does. If Rick had went out with Otis, both of them would have been devoured by walkers and as a result, his son would be dead. So yeah, I wholeheartedly disagree that Shane fails. I see Shane adapting to this new dog-eat-dog world, while I see Rick continuing to live in a past that is just as dead as the walkers themselves.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: J on November 28, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
It's crazy how far the series has deviated from the comics.  In my opinion, at least.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 28, 2011, 02:09:20 PM
Re: Rick vs. Shane
The problem with Shane is that he lets his temper control him. Just as people like that in real life don't fare well under dire circumstances, Shane's ultimately doomed. His decision to kill Otis in order to get the machine back to the farm was a necessary evil, true, but who's to say Rick's ingenuity would've made it so that he would not have survived had he gone? He's already proven that he's more capable than Shane of surviving this world alone by the sheer virtue of having done so, and that he defused a possible war of attrition with a group of gangbangers in Atlanta in order to save Glen (their go-to for risky missions that involve stealth and speed more than anything) speaks wonders about his character.

Re: deviation from the comics
Kirkman's said that he wants the two worlds to be separate entities, so I'm digging it. The big picture is the same and some of the details are identical, but overall? Different takes on the same idea. If it was a by-the-numbers adaptation of the book then Darryl wouldn't exist and this whole season would have sucked if not for Darryl.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Eric Rohkar on November 28, 2011, 02:15:56 PM
Of course you don't like 'like' Shane. He's kind of a dick. With that said, he's also a realist, and in a lot of ways, he's not all THAT bad.

Let us examine the 'evils' of Shane for a moment, shall we.

1. He left Rick for dead in a hospital: Okay, yes, this appears bad on the surface. However, let's consider something. You are in a hospital, and all of the sudden, everything goes bat shit crazy. There is some kind of monsterous, semi-human creature running around eating people, and the government has sent soldiers in to murder everyone, including completely human people. Now, you need to get out, but alas, your friend/family member is in a coma. Would any of you have given Rick the same amount of effort that Shane gave him? And is leaving Rick really that crazy? Would two bodies have been better than one?

2. Told Lori Rick was dead: And for all intents and purposes, he was. He was in a COMA, during the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE! If the afore mentioned zombies had not killed him, it could easily be assumed that the government soldiers with orders to do nothing but kill would have gotten him. Hell, even if he somehow were to survive, he's in a COMA, and now he has no medical care. Instead of risking lives to go check on Rick, or risking lives waiting in hopes that Rick MIGHT wake up, Shane decided to make a completely reasonable and logical assumption that Rick was dead, and that it was best to move on. I don't think he was like "Oh sweet, I can fuck Lori now". I think he was doing what he felt was the best and most right thing in that moment. The fact that Rick did manage to wake up and survive is pure Hollywood. In a realistic situation, there is a 95% chance that guy would be fucked.

3. Shane fucked Lori: I don't think, when Shane left Rick in the hospital, he was thinking "gonna bang this guys wife and raise his child as my own". I think he looked after his best friends wife, which is a pretty honorable thing to do, and in the process, feelings came up. Again, it is reasonable to assume this ladies husband is dead, and in the apocalypse, the traditional courtship process changes radically. Having people who care deeply for you is a great survival trick, and honestly, despite Lori's regrets, having Shane have these really conflicting feelings for her and Carl has saved her ass quite a bit.

4. Beat up Carol's husband: A little excessive, but come on? Is this a bad thing?

5. Leveled his gun on Rick: Okay, this one looks really bad, and it is. It's one of two things that are kinda hard and impossible to justify. That said, I think this was no more than when you hold your hand up like you are going to punch someone and drop it. He did not fire, I don't think if he had been all alone he would have fired, and look at Shane now. Up until recently, he has gone along with what Rick has told him and not leveled up complaint(cept to Lori), as he understands that the group wants to follow Rick. Now, down the line, will we see Shane ready to SHOOT Rick? Maybe, but right now, I think he would ONLY do it if he felt it would save the lives of the people he cares about(Lori, Carl, maybe Andrea). In an apocalyptic situation like this, survivors of all walks of life are gonna realize that the world they knew is gone. With the regular social stigmas and natural social constructs that regulate our behavior gone, EVERYONE is gonna do things they would not have normally done in the real world, and certain behaviors are gonna be enhanced(like actually visualizing firing a gun at your best friend).

6. Tried to rape Lori: K, this is bad. I guess, to play devil's advocate, he was really drunk(on fucking SOCO, gross), and Lori kinda handled this situation very poorly. "Hey, I know I've relied on you and led you on and we've fallen in love, but my husbands back, so fuck you never talk to me again." A little honesty early on would have been a GREAT thing. That said, rape is not justifiable. This was the ONE thing that Shane has done that I feel is truly truly 'bad guy' material. You can't justify this one.

7. Otis: First off, if what happened to Otis wasn't karma just a little bit, I don't understand what karma is. Second, Shane did what Shane thought was right. I don't know you, but I know Carl, and I know I love and care for Carl, and I'm gonna do anything to make sure Carl lives. BAM! Just like any average person would do, Shane is okay with sacrificing those he doesn't know for those he loves. Is that bad guy behavior, or completely normal? Either way, Shane saved Carl's life while Rick and Lori cried.

8. Leaving Sophia: He was just saying what everyone else was thinking. In normal, regulated society, after a kid is missing for more than 48 hours, the search becomes for a body. I loved the Talking Dead poll for the first search episode, how long would you look for a kid that isn't yours? 99.9% of the people who voted said they wouldn't search at all. And still, even with that train of thought, Shane did more searching for Sophia than Carol.

9. Threatening Dale: My least favorite character is Dale. He is so self righteous and preachy, and by god I wish a walker would eat him already. So, after everything Shane has done for the group, and he has done a lot, Dale comes to him and says "why don't you get the fuck out", Shane gets a little pissed. Threatening Dale wasn't necessary, but can you really blame the guy.

10. Walker Barn: Herschel is crazier than Shane. Herschel will risk the lives of his entire family and anyone on his premises to save the 'sick' people, but he is willing to cast out a child who has just been wounded(by his own man no less), a pregnant woman, and a group of survivors who are so desperate for a place to stay and would be a great asset to his farm? The SHOOTing up of the Walker Barn was completely necessary, and I'd go so far to say that it's not unreasonable to use a little force to stay on Herschel's farm. This dude cares more for Walkers, some of which he doesn't even know, over real, living people. Dude needs to have his head bashed in. As for the "Rick was the one who shot Sophia argument", sure, Shane froze for a moment because, honestly, who expected to see Sophia come out of the barn? I sure didn't. So it's reasonable to assume that any of these people would freeze for a moment. Had Rick not acted? Shane would have, or one of them would have before they became just like her. But, hey, if Rick wants to volunteer to SHOOT the little girl, why not let him?

Is Shane a good guy? Oh no, not at all. But I don't think he's gone crazy. He's making moral decisions based on his moral compass that has altered, and has HAD to alter due to the mother fucking apocalypse. If Shane goes pure evil, I'll be a little disappointed, because that's too easy. Shane is not a bad guy. He's just a guy willing to do whatever it takes to keep himself and those he loves alive.

Rick and Shane are BOTH flawed leaders. Shane has lost almost all human empathy, and Rick has too much. They are two extremes. On the one hand, Shane will leave your ass. On the other hand, how many people has Rick endangered, maybe even gotten killed, because he wanted to do the right thing? He was leading a walker on a mother fucking LEASH! That's totally safe. Shane is not likeable, but I think people love to attack him based on a perspective that would not be feasible if we were plunged into Shane's situation.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Eric Rohkar on November 28, 2011, 02:31:12 PM
Also, can there be a Team Glenn? Or, if there isn't a Team Glenn, can Glenn be on Team Darryl? Seriously, for a kid who's biggest achievement pre-zombie apocalypse was probably doing the speed run on Portal, this guy has been dynamite.

Also also, does T-Dawgg have a real name, or is he just that black, and I have a follow up, will T-Dawgg ever prove himself useful?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 28, 2011, 02:48:16 PM
I like Shane as a character. I feel like I need to say that. His motivations are clear (points 1 and 2 are entirely justified, which even Rick agreed with, and point 3 was even defendable given that the only other man Lori's probably ever trusted post-apocalypse was Shane) and he derives little pleasure from doing what he honestly does believe to be right. He's a useful person to have on the team.

However, what Jim said at the camp when Shane asked him to stop digging holes, at least the heart of what he said, is true: believing "might makes right" is a fatalist view that dooms those who hold it to eventually succumb to it. Shane may have Andrea and Darryl on his side (to a degree, since Darryl's proven he follows his own orders unless it's absolutely vital that he listens to somebody else), but that leaves Glen, Dale, Carol, Rick, Lori, Carl, T-Dog, and the entirety of Hershel's farm against him (from what it appeared last night, Hershel and Maggie have three others living at the farm with them), making the odds 12 on 3 at its best. It's more like 13 on 2, since Darryl will likely follow the others since he's a survivalist at heart (more people = better chance of survival, even if you're forced to hold back half the time), and Andrea's proven that she can be swayed, so that makes it 14 on 1 with Shane being the odd man out in the end of it all.

Basically? Shane's justified in his actions, even if his actions are horrible. As a character, he's well-developed and invigorating. As a leader, though, he's not good. Rick demonstrating that he's willing to stop moving and search for Sophia lets the rest of the group know that he's willing to do the same for them. Shane wanted to move on. This tells me, if I'm part of the group, that Rick wants to keep us all safe whereas Shane believes I'm disposeable (unless I'm Carl or Lori). Rick is the leader I'd be more willing to run with given that he'd be ready to put his own neck on the line for me.

Hershel's crazy, true, but his kind of crazy is understandable given the reactions of everybody once Sophia shuffled out of the barn as a walker. Everybody in there were either friends or family (the two that he wrangled with his son and Rick, as he said, were friends who lived down the road). Sophia, to anybody but Carol, was just another person in the grand scheme of things, yet, as part of their group, they grew to have affection for her on a base and human level. Rick proved that he can make the tough call by putting her down when Shane, Andrea, T-Dog, Glen, and Darryl were completely dumbfounded (and Carol was a full-on mess with the only thing stopping her from likely allowing Sophia to bite her being Darryl holding her down and consoling her).

Rick > Shane, even if Rick's a pussy. I'll take the emotionally sensitive and somewhat neurotic leader with occasionally misplaced senses of honor and chivalry over the unstable and overtly aggressive second-in-command that chokes up once he faces the horror of having to put down one of his own.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Eric Rohkar on November 28, 2011, 02:59:11 PM
Oh, I wasn't making the point that Shane was the best choice for leader. Truth be told, I think they should boot Rick and Shane for Darryl or, dare I say it, Glenn.

I was just justifying Shane's actions to make the point that you can't entirely villify him, and I really really hope that the show doesn't go ahead and just make him another Merle-esque character. I sorta hope we see the good in Shane a little bit more, if only to keep his character fresh and interesting. Because there is good in there, but let's be honest, in a world gone to shit, you go to shit with it or die.

I also think Darryl is more than a survivalist. I mean, he is, but his consoling of Carol(not just when Sophia came out, but in past episodes) and his efforts to find Sophia(more so than anyone else) shows that Darryl, once he is away from Merle, is actually a pretty decent guy.

If Merle comes back, though...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 28, 2011, 03:06:05 PM
If anybody's familiar with the character of the Governor from the comics, there were hints that maybe the show-version of him could be Merle should they have him ever return. Given that the arc with the Governor is probably the most important aspect of the comic since the first book, that'd be awesome if true.

I'd say a good comparison of Rick and Shane would be the main characters from the movie Warrior. They're brothers but have entirely different outlooks on life and reasons for fighting professionally in the tournament, and they eventually have to go at it against each other.

(Sorry, Warrior is still one of the best movies I've ever seen, so I try to pimp it as much as possible.)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: X-Calibur on November 28, 2011, 03:07:17 PM
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Or, if there isn't a Team Glenn, can Glenn be on Team Darryl? Seriously, for a kid who's biggest achievement pre-zombie apocalypse was probably doing the speed run on Portal, this guy has been dynamite.

God yes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: X-Calibur on November 28, 2011, 03:15:22 PM
Also, although I realize this thread says "spoilerz" right in the title, can we at least try and contain the "spoilerz" to the TV show aspect rather than add conjecture about stuff that has happened in the comic books and may or may not happen in the TV show?  I really wish I hadn't known about the Governor/Merle thing, cause in the off chance it DOES happen?  Heh, so much for the surprise factor.

Just saying.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 28, 2011, 03:17:07 PM
Also, can there be a Team Glenn? Or, if there isn't a Team Glenn, can Glenn be on Team Darryl? Seriously, for a kid who's biggest achievement pre-zombie apocalypse was probably doing the speed run on Portal, this guy has been dynamite.

Also also, does T-Dawgg have a real name, or is he just that black, and I have a follow up, will T-Dawgg ever prove himself useful?

hahah yeah poor T-Dawg would be this half's LVP, for sure.  
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 28, 2011, 03:25:12 PM
part of what makes the show fascinating is the dichotomy between Shane/Rick.  Like the differences between Jack and Locke in Lost.  Between AL and Bullock in Deadwood. 

Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on November 28, 2011, 03:56:46 PM
I'm really trying to catch up so I can discuss the show in this thread, but I'm hearing that maybe I should wait until February to watch last night's episode...



Give me your opinion via PM, since I won't be reading this thread.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on November 28, 2011, 04:12:35 PM
Waiting until february is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Entragian on November 28, 2011, 08:00:57 PM
# 1- Eric's Shane analysis is pretty much perfect. Shane has gained something of a villainous reputation, but there are such tragic elements to the character. Complex and conflicted, he always brings entertainment value to each and every episode.

# 2-
part of what makes the show fascinating is the dichotomy between Shane/Rick.  Like the differences between Jack and Locke in Lost.  Between AL and Bullock in Deadwood. 

I couldn't agree with this more. Al/Bullock made Deadwood incredible because they're basically polar opposites in how they approach situations, so their interactions always made for Grade-A drama. Shane/Rick have the same effect.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on November 28, 2011, 08:42:26 PM
I should note again that Merle is NOT in the comics and the Governor character is somebody entirely different, but it's been mostly conjecture between fans that Merle could make a good TV-version of the Governor.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on November 30, 2011, 01:08:40 PM
Waiting until february is the most ridiculous thing I've heard. 

I was considering waiting until February because some people made it sound like it was an OMG CLIFFHANGER ending... which it wasn't.  It was an OMG ending... but sorta in that "i see it coming but it's still gut-wrenching" sort of way


I have a meeting to prepare for, but I did watch, and I did spend a little time this afternoon reading what you all thought of it. I'll reply more later.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on February 12, 2012, 09:29:05 PM
BUMP! BUMP!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on February 12, 2012, 09:57:32 PM
AWESOME.  I loved it.  I loved it so so much.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on February 12, 2012, 10:02:36 PM
I noticed something watching the first half of Season 2 prior to tonight's return:
Its slow pace 100% aids in the show.

The show isn't meant to be easy to watch. It's not meant to be engaging on the same level as other programs, let alone dramas. It's not of the Zombieland or Dawn '04 variety. It is paced slow and dry, like classic zombie films, and the episodes flow together with the tension boiling with appropriate subtlety.

Basically? If you don't like the Walking Dead, then you don't get zombie lore and you're just another bandwagon jumper.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on February 13, 2012, 10:36:44 AM
I love the shows pacing. Im a huge sliw build to a payoff, and they do a great job with the characters. So they're complex and engaging so you actually care.  The also subtlely build tension, and because you are constantly aware of the potential dangers at every turn... A simple scene of riding in the back of a truck with rekilled zombies is now a worrisome adventure for the viewer. For the record? I am NOT riding in the back of that truck
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on February 17, 2012, 08:55:11 AM
If none of those zombies re-animated while putting them into the truck, I'd ride back there.  Unless the smell made me lurch.



Also, FUCK YEAH, RICK! 

I don't know if I would've denied those guys the chance to join the group (and I'm looking forward to hearing what people think about that), but the moment it was clear that violence was going to happen, it was awesome that Rick put 'em both down with a flash.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on February 17, 2012, 10:38:16 AM
You have limited supplies. They might have too many people with rick's crew... At least they can stop feeding chickens to barn zombies... And those philly guys were threatening.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on February 17, 2012, 11:38:30 AM
You have limited supplies. They might have too many people with rick's crew... At least they can stop feeding chickens to barn zombies... And those philly guys were threatening.

The shark-shirt actor who Rick was talking to, I think he could've done a better job of seeming a little more devious and a little more desperate to help sell the fact that they shouldn't be brought back to the farm.


Also, the lack of figuring out meals in this show is one of the things they could do better.  Sleeping / taking shifts is something I'd like them to do more, too.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on February 17, 2012, 11:59:18 AM
You have limited supplies. They might have too many people with rick's crew... At least they can stop feeding chickens to barn zombies... And those philly guys were threatening.
This. On top of that, they don't know if these two are alone, or if they can be trusted, or anything. Glen and Rick had already experienced Merle and saw how he was a massive cancer to the group, despite whatever positives he may have had, and Shane's growing distrust of everybody but himself coupled with Hershel's detest for him means adding two more guys to the mix, especially when one of them (the fatter one) was already proving himself to have a short temper, likely would result in violence that could claim more than just one or two lives.

The shark-shirt actor who Rick was talking to, I think he could've done a better job of seeming a little more devious and a little more desperate to help sell the fact that they shouldn't be brought back to the farm.
Nah. He was purposefully trying to come off as sincere with subtle hints that he had alterior motives. The role was played perfectly. If the fat one hadn't been upfront with his douchery? There exists the possibility that the two could have been brought back, but the attitude displayed by chunky and Philly's pushiness of them joining up is what made Rick let them know that he had no problem pulling the trigger.
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Also, the lack of figuring out meals in this show is one of the things they could do better.  Sleeping / taking shifts is something I'd like them to do more, too.
They were upfront in the fact that they slept in shifts in the first season and hinted at it in the first half of S2 by having Dale and T-Dog on top of the RV when they were parked on the highway. As for the meal planning...they're on a farm for the time being. It sounds like the meals are pretty planned out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on February 20, 2012, 02:27:10 PM
So what did people think of the latest episode?

At least one more guy gets shot, then has his face ripped off...

One dude falls off a roof and gets his leg caught on a fence...

Glenn gets back safely... and decides he might not have a relationship with Farmer's Hot Daughter?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on February 20, 2012, 02:37:50 PM
He froze up when Rick, a man who's saved his life before, needed him to do a job that didn't involve Walkers. It was him or the other crew, and the other crew shot first. Glen doesn't think he could defend the Farmer's Daughter (fuck, I keep forgetting her name) should the threat come from something other than a Walker.

Solid, solid episode, and I'm loving that the pace is picking up. You keep it slow and plodding for the first half and then make the shit all hit the fans towards the second half, then when you watch every episode back-to-back? It all turns into one long epic tale of hubris where the point of "nobody's safe" is hammered home even further.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on February 20, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
Yeah I think the deliberate nature of the first half really makes an episode like last night's nerve wracking as hell.  The potential for divided powers aka -  Team Rick vs. Team Shane just makes things crazy.  Also for the first time they showed the potential for the living to turn on each other. 

Rick's look as Lori talked about the danger shane could present sent chills. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on February 21, 2012, 01:34:59 PM
It's Maggie.  Maggie is much much hotter on the show than in the comics.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on February 21, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Yeah I think the deliberate nature of the first half really makes an episode like last night's nerve wracking as hell.  The potential for divided powers aka -  Team Rick vs. Team Shane just makes things crazy.  Also for the first time they showed the potential for the living to turn on each other. 

Rick's look as Lori talked about the danger shane could present sent chills. 

Scenes for next week were INTENSE
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on February 24, 2012, 11:50:01 PM
So, The Governor, one of the best villains in comics in a very long time...has been cast.  Sadly, it's not John Hawkes like everybody wanted, but David Morrissey.  I think I can get behind that.  I have faith in them.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on February 25, 2012, 09:50:08 AM
I can honestly say I've never seen anything he's been in but I know the name.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Red River Jack on March 08, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
I'm finally current on this season. I hesitated to catch up because a friend said this season sucked, but I guess he gave up after Carl got shot through the deer. I don't know what he was smoking because it's amazing. The pacing, plot, characters, evolution of the characters, etc.

Carl is going to be one creepy ass fucking sociopath kid though.

One thing that bothered me was when Lori swallowed all the morning after pills. The morning after pill doesn't cause abortions, though ingesting a fistful like she did might screw up her insides and screw her up as well and perhaps cause a miscarriage in a way that its not intended to. The typical Plan B morning after pill is just a super strong dose of normal birth control pills that prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterine wall. Once the egg is attached, a normal nose of Plan B isn't going to do shit. You have to get a special abortion pill at that point, the technical name for I don't know off the top of my head. If the pharmacy even had the actual abortion pill, she could have just been one and done. Of course there's no drama in that. But Lori spit them all out so it doesn't matter, but it still bothered me.

The evolution of how they treat the living and the undead is really amazing in this show when you think about how they handled things in season one.

Also, I was so psyched to see Michael Raymond-James from Terriers join the show... only to die the same episode. Biggest. Let. Down. Ever.

I can't wait to see how the rest of this season plays out.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 09, 2012, 06:33:46 AM
I'm finally current on this season. I hesitated to catch up because a friend said this season sucked, but I guess he gave up after Carl got shot through the deer. I don't know what he was smoking because it's amazing. The pacing, plot, characters, evolution of the characters, etc.
Aside from a few spurts of quality, the first half of the season were slow and grinding with seemingly nothing happening. The pacing, however, works like a thing of beauty when you watch the episodes back to back in a block, because then it just feels like a long film, but imagine waiting a week for each episode after you just spent an hour seeing people talk and stare off into the distance. It was painful at times.
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Also, I was so psyched to see Michael Raymond-James from Terriers join the show... only to die the same episode. Biggest. Let. Down. Ever.
According to people who work on the show, that was 100% intentional. They got a guy they knew was a great actor, who had the reputation of being so, in order to get the hopes up of people who knew of his work at all. Then? KA-BLAMMO! Add it to the "anybody can die at any time" aspect of the show that they've really reinforced hardcore this season.

Two episodes left in S2, and the spoiler that leaked (not too much of a spoiler for people familiar with the comic at all, though) has me watching intently just to see how they handle it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 09, 2012, 07:00:06 PM
The part I'm loving about that is how they keep talking about Carl's involvement.  THAT I can't wait for.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 19, 2012, 01:03:54 PM
shocked no one is talking about the season finale
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 19, 2012, 01:33:58 PM
We're all still in shock by it...

...and recovering from three days straight of giving each other Stunners in honor of Stone Cold Day.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 19, 2012, 01:59:39 PM
I haven't seen it yet...so I mean...maybe you guys are sweet and waiting for me to get home tonight and watch it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 19, 2012, 03:28:38 PM
We're all still in shock by it...

...and recovering from three days straight of giving each other Stunners in honor of Stone Cold Day.
all this... And if i talk about i might have another zombie dream where i punch a walker... Of al places... In the mouth. Clearly I wont survive long.  Summing up the episode:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/477b3061-a504-ffd3.jpg)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Red River Jack on March 19, 2012, 03:47:06 PM
A lot of cable shows are using fake CGI fire these days and it looks bad. Justified did it the other week. Time to up the budgets to burn things down for reals.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 19, 2012, 05:08:35 PM
I think burning down an old barn may actually be cheaper than CGI fire, even though the effect of walkers on fire were CGI (because, well, flame-retardant jelly actually does cost money).
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 19, 2012, 08:21:57 PM
I think burning down an old barn may actually be cheaper than CGI fire, even though the effect of walkers on fire were CGI (because, well, flame-retardant jelly actually does cost money).

and is incredibly dangerous, especially when you have as much exposed skin as you have with a collection of walkers. 

but that shot with the barn is SWEET.  Loved the story of all the cast, including wrapped people coming for the burning of the barn. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 20, 2012, 11:06:01 AM
I think burning down an old barn may actually be cheaper than CGI fire, even though the effect of walkers on fire were CGI (because, well, flame-retardant jelly actually does cost money).

but that shot with the barn is SWEET.  Loved the story of all the cast, including wrapped people coming for the burning of the barn. 


Guessing that was from The Talking Dead.  Haven't watched it yet.





Also, is that a prison in the horizon?!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 20, 2012, 11:19:32 AM
At the end? Yes. Thats a prison. To cross reference zombie fiction... Zombie Survival Guide ranks prisons very high as "fortresses" to ride out the zombie apocalypse
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 20, 2012, 12:01:18 PM
I haven't read the comic books / graphic novels and I'd rather not know what happens, but I was thinking about what might happen if they choose to go into the prison. I'd imagine that it might still be running... though it's a bit of a stretch to imagine that they found a way to continue feeding the prisoners and such.

I'm imagining there are a lot of cells filled with prisoners who starved to death and then came back as walkers.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 20, 2012, 02:12:06 PM
Well, I won't spoil anything in regards to the prison arc besides it being the defining arc of Walking Dead's entire run...but I'd imagine that prisons are going to be abandoned like you think, or it'd be like how it was in Y, The Last Man where the remaining female guards and staff just released the inmates since they were sure of the end of the world anyway.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 20, 2012, 02:34:35 PM
Well, I made it this far through Walking Dead without reading the Graphic Novels, so maybe it's time to pick them up and do the whole thing where I read before I watch like I do with books->movies



anyone know where someone could score a copy?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 20, 2012, 06:50:12 PM
amazon.com
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Red River Jack on March 20, 2012, 07:26:36 PM
A bookstore.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 20, 2012, 07:32:42 PM
A comic book shop.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Red River Jack on March 20, 2012, 08:20:56 PM
A used bookstore.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Kenji Yamada on March 20, 2012, 08:52:21 PM
Well, I made it this far through Walking Dead without reading the Graphic Novels, so maybe it's time to pick them up and do the whole thing where I read before I watch like I do with books->movies



anyone know where someone could score a copy?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+walking+dead+graphic+novel (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+walking+dead+graphic+novel)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 20, 2012, 09:15:23 PM
Torrent sites.

I'm surprised it got this far before somebody went illegal with it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Red River Jack on March 20, 2012, 09:30:29 PM
I'm sure its sitting on TPB and if not there, Demonoid for certain. But since this is a popular, critically acclaimed series in print in FIVE different formats (as well as available legally digitally in trade format too), you could probably acquire it legally as fast as you could acquire it illegally!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 21, 2012, 12:19:17 AM
It's so hard to find good comics anymore, this book needs to never end.

However, if/when they kill off some of the vital long running characters, I'm gonna lose my shit in an awesome way.  Since this is a TV thread, I don't know if I should openly spoil the comic books and just tell Rob to go make a no spoiler thread...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 21, 2012, 09:16:18 AM
Yeah. I'd suggest that. Since they are different and since we have a large collection of people who havent read the comics, it could definitely be its own thread
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 21, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
Meme that made me chuckle:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/aeec6567-25f3-4a8a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 21, 2012, 01:49:10 PM
is that meme just regarding Walking Dead, or is there another Lori / Carl combo that I'm not remembering?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 21, 2012, 04:05:13 PM
Just the walking dead tying a south park reference (from 1 of my favorite episodes) into it... Thus the animated character
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: Lucy Blaylock on March 21, 2012, 04:12:32 PM
Just the walking dead tying a south park reference (from 1 of my favorite episodes) into it... Thus the animated character

IF YOU LOVE ZOMBIES SO MUCH, WHY DONT YOU MARRY ONE?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 21, 2012, 06:38:01 PM
Stan Darsh!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 21, 2012, 08:27:01 PM
Just the walking dead tying a south park reference (from 1 of my favorite episodes) into it... Thus the animated character

IF YOU LOVE ZOMBIES SO MUCH, WHY DONT YOU MARRY ONE?

poor personal hygiene.  difficulties with communication.  ya know... the whole trying to eat me alive thing... oh, yeah... and vaginal dryness.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 22, 2012, 04:25:25 PM
I don't know about you guys, but I could totally destroy the girl playing Michonne.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 22, 2012, 07:22:44 PM
(http://hijinksensue.com/comics/2012-03-19-wheres-carl.jpg)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 22, 2012, 08:32:00 PM
love that!   Homage to Calvin and Hobbes, Walking Dead style.   
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 23, 2012, 12:52:51 AM
There are so many fucking things out there about Carl now, it's awesome.  It's become a meme.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 23, 2012, 08:12:14 AM
I want one with carl as Nightcrawler... Lil dude can totally teleport!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 23, 2012, 11:46:48 AM
http://getoutofherecarl.tumblr.com/ (http://getoutofherecarl.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 23, 2012, 12:07:27 PM
http://getoutofherecarl.tumblr.com/ (http://getoutofherecarl.tumblr.com/)


That site goes from awesome to suck back to awesome again like crazy.



The Star Wars one in the trash compactor was great.


The Brokeback Mountain one was terrible.




I really have to wonder what goes through some peoples minds when they decide to present their entry for a given meme.

SMDH
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 23, 2012, 12:54:01 PM
I liked the Tombstone one, honestly.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 26, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
Season 2 special edition.

That's some quality packaging. 


http://www.amazon.com/The-Walking-Dead-Complete-Limited/dp/B007MS5B6Q/ref=zg_bs_2958935011_19 (http://www.amazon.com/The-Walking-Dead-Complete-Limited/dp/B007MS5B6Q/ref=zg_bs_2958935011_19)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: B on March 26, 2012, 10:37:27 PM
I reeeeeeally want that...the only special editions I have with odd boxes are Star Trek (with the Enterprise as its case) and Toy Story 3 (with Buzz Lightyear as its case).  I mention this because I'm trying to justify a zombie head with a screwdriver in it for decorative purposes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 27, 2012, 06:16:47 AM
I often forget just how weird I may be. Nobody would come into my place and think twice about seeing a zombie head with a screwdriver plunged into it, not even my church-going grandparents.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 27, 2012, 09:10:24 AM
My son would never sleep again if that was in the living room.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 27, 2012, 10:01:15 AM
Yeah probably not for toddlers
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 27, 2012, 10:56:53 AM
**wasn't much older than a toddler when he got into horror**
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 27, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
**wasn't much older than a toddler when he got into horror**


*wonders the backstory on that one*
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 27, 2012, 11:55:47 AM
Yeah probably not for MOST toddlers
fixed
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 28, 2012, 08:41:17 AM
**wasn't much older than a toddler when he got into horror**
*wonders the backstory on that one*
My mother loved movies and we'd watch Jaws a lot because it's one of her favorite films. Ghostbusters was also my favorite movie of the age (and still is), and there's plenty of horror overtones to it. My folks let me watch rated R movies when I was, like, 5 or 6 because they knew I understood the difference between fantasy and reality.

...this may explain a lot.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 28, 2012, 12:22:36 PM
**wasn't much older than a toddler when he got into horror**
*wonders the backstory on that one*
My mother loved movies and we'd watch Jaws a lot because it's one of her favorite films. Ghostbusters was also my favorite movie of the age (and still is), and there's plenty of horror overtones to it. My folks let me watch rated R movies when I was, like, 5 or 6 because they knew I understood the difference between fantasy and reality.

...this may explain a lot.


I saw Ghostbusters and Raiders Of The Lost Ark when I was 5 and I never recovered from it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 28, 2012, 07:34:33 PM
I was like 7 or 8 when I saw one of the poltergeists... that shit gave me recurring nightmares for YEARS.  Specifically the scene in the recently dug out pool... its raining... and skeletons end up popping out and they're trying to climb out of the pool, and its all muddy so they can't. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 29, 2012, 06:13:03 AM
You know, it's actually funny what scared me as a kid. The first time I saw Alien my mother wouldn't let me watch the Chestburster scene, but then I caught it on TV by myself and saw the scene in full. I was convinced for a while that my having a belly ache was an alien ready to burst out of me and then rush down to the basement to hide.

The opening credits of Jaws also fucked with me, but not the rest of it, and the "face peeling" scene in Poltergeist scared the piss out of me along with what happens when Craig T. Nelson pulls on the rope against the psychic's instructions.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: TheLegacy on March 29, 2012, 12:13:00 PM
I was like 7 or 8 when I saw one of the poltergeists... that shit gave me recurring nightmares for YEARS.  Specifically the scene in the recently dug out pool... its raining... and skeletons end up popping out and they're trying to climb out of the pool, and its all muddy so they can't. 


I only saw PART of ONE of those movies, and I couldn't look into mirrors for weeks.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: xiv on March 29, 2012, 02:57:02 PM
oh and that clown doll in the corner...  fuck that thing.  Also was frequently guest starring in nightmares. 
Title: Re: The Walking Dead (Spoilerz)
Post by: DrezzyF2T on March 30, 2012, 05:42:33 AM
I only saw PART of ONE of those movies, and I couldn't look into mirrors for weeks.
That's the third (and worst) one. It's such a damn shame that so many members of the cast for the movies met horrible ends...

I will say, though, that Preacher Kane is one of the greatest horror villains of all-time.